It makes the county weaker everyday

    • It makes the county weaker everyday

      Unfortunately, this disease is known everywhere. It is not physical or psychological diseases . I don’t know which section it belongs to but it is the most dangerous disease that afflicts this holy country. It is nepotism “ wastaa”.
      This disease destroys nations. It makes the county weaker everyday.
      have you every played with nepotism one day? If people trust Almighty Allah why do u think people use this way? Is it “shurk” polytheism?a
      Is it banned in Islam. If the answer is “yes” ? why is it banned , it makes everything easy to be done as it is clear in our society
      Do u think Islam makes thing more complex?a

    • Thank you البارون

      Nepotism
      Well, we all know that we are Islamic society, tribal society, and to help each other is a demand and a must

      I do not see it a taboo to help each other as long as we do not deprive others from their rights

      It is not a disease nothing, and I am sure you heard it before

      الاقربون اولى بالمعروف

      You may ask, how can be nepotismic and still do not deprive others from thier rights. I would leave this question and I am sure mny have many answers

      Let u her from others


      :)
      10derness

    • البارون
      How r u and how is life with you....back to the subject first of all Wastaa is existing every where in this world not only in this country. Nonetheless it is depends from one place to another. Majority of other country using money to influence wastaa but in our country wastaa is influenced by relation which is less risk because if you’re poor man and you know somebody who occupied high position then you will get wastaa. However if it was influenced by money then it will be only for rich people. In regards to Islam, it is not complex because every thing has been explained simply but people make it complex by looking to things from shallow perspective rather then deeply and then giving judgment and saying it based on Islamic perspective
      Thanx
      YSK_LOL


    • Good one ALBARON, I totally agree with YSK_lol that Nepotism exists everywhere, as an example of another term for Nepotism is networking. Here we are talking about relationships among people. In Australia it is considered an important step towards getting a job. But what makes it different from networking with people in Oman is the qualifications you have. In Oman, even if you are not that good, not that high qualified, then you will still be accepted under the condition of NOT replacing this guy with someone else who can do better. In Australia networking can work for you if you already have the reasons to let the person help you get a job.

      It is not a disease as Tenderness mentioned, but it's a process that we should undertake it carefully so that we dont violate the rights of others of getting that certain thing or job. Networking or Nepotism is good when you want to get married of course. How can we call it a disease??i

      It makes the county weaker if the number of people losing their rights is becoming larger. To some extent, the workplaces in Oman have much higher expectations in Omanis when they are still too young. Although they still have the right of having such expectations to some extent too because there are many young people who are talented and have good backgrounds and qualifications.

      Wasta as another term to call it is good when you want to solve problems between people. How can we call it a disease in this case?

      In the example of Wasta influenced by money from the rich people, I consider it illegal unless under extreme circumenstances you do need sometimes to use money to influence wasta, as it is in some cases that I heard in Romania.

      Is it considered sherk or is it banned in Islam?? I don't know to be honest with you but I also don't think it is sherk and certainly Islam does not make things complex, but there are parts of it that is complex because the world is complex and Islam came to us to take that complexity and explain it to people. For complex matters, there are easy ways and complex ways to solve them. I guess even with easy matters there are easy anc complex ways to solve them.

      I only hate the Wasta that takes my rights from me and it did happen to me, but I learned that giving up is even worse. If you dont get it now, you can get it later, just keep on fighting for your right and what you think is meant to be yours, try to do and create the reasons for yourself to reach your rights that have been taken away from you. Then Allah will give you what you struggled badly to get.

      thanks ALBARON

    • First of all sorry for being late.

      Let’s start with tenderness you said “I do not see it a taboo to help each other as long as we do not deprive others from their rights”
      What you said is absolutely right because you said “ don’t deprive others from their rights” I know what you mean but I am sorry coz I didn’t mention what kind of nepotism . I mean negative nepotism that effects Omani society and it is common here.

      if you have brother or son who wants to work somewhere and that person has good competitor who is better than ur relative to be in charge of that job. You know that ur relative doesn’t deserve that job but you want to help him because of relative relationship. So now by helping ur relative you are depriving somebody’s rights.


      So do u think it is fear to deprive that man from him rights. Do u think this verse is written to support people like those .
      الاقربون اولى بالمعروف

      I believe that this verse is written to mean something else far away from deprive somebody’s right and you know the real meaning

      So this kind of networking is really makes the county more weaker.
      Waiting ur comments plz.


      YSK_LOL


      thank you for asking. I am okay but exhausted. To be honest when I open this forum and read some interesting topics I get rid of tiredness and want to work more and more.
      Back to this subject , I totally agree with what you said “if you’re poor man and you know somebody who occupied high position then you will get wastaa.” When it is meant to help a man who has good skills and he fits that job, extremely there is no question .
      But there will be questions if that man doesn’t fit that job. Here favoritism is not welcomed.

      I like it when you said “In regards to Islam, it is not complex because every thing has been explained simply but people make it complex by looking to things from shallow perspective rather then deeply and then giving judgment and saying it based on Islamic perspective”
      You ended you comments with lovely words . thank you for that .



      Thank you for your comments NaWaR. Actually, I knew you would write a lot but I wanted others to writer their comments but you have covered most argumentative points.
      I think you made mistake when you said “It is not a disease as Tenderness mentioned” coz I said that so I think Tenderness is angry with you.
      I think it is a disease coz people who depend on nepotism or as you said networking make “ Shareek” with Almighty Allah coz they should know that everything is written before. Whatever you do, what is written is going to happen whither accepted or not. When you ask somebody for help that person is not going to do anything that Allah did not write. So this person is only “ Sabab” coz there is nothing between Almighty Alah and his worshipper. Depends on your skills and abilities and make “ Do3aa” otherwise you are hypocrite coz you don’t have faith in Almighty Alah who has created this universal . you need Almighty Alah not human to help you to find a job. So it is hypocrisy disease.

      I haven’t get you point when you said “Wasta as another term to call it is good when you want to solve problems between people”
      Could you please give us more clarification.

      Sometimes Nepotism relates to money but Alhamdolah we aren’t in Romania and we don’t have Mafia.



      I wrote this subject coz I happened to 3 times when I lost the most important position in this country but life is like circle I will them Insha Alah and will remind them about the past so now I am doing exactly as you wrote “I only hate the Wasta that takes my rights from me and it did happen to me, but I learned that giving up is even worse. If you dont get it now, you can get it later, just keep on fighting for your right and what you think is meant to be yours, try to do and create the reasons for yourself to reach your rights that have been taken away from you. Then Allah will give you what you struggled badly to get.”
      Thank you for ur gorgeous words.

      [B]Your brother Mr Baron


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    • Thank you for your comments NaWaR. Actually, I knew you would write a lot but I wanted others to writer their comments but you have covered most argumentative points.
      I think you made mistake when you said “It is not a disease as Tenderness mentioned” coz I said that so I think Tenderness is angry with you.
      I think it is a disease coz people who depend on nepotism or as you said networking make “ Shareek” with Almighty Allah coz they should know that everything is written before. Whatever you do, what is written is going to happen whither accepted or not. When you ask somebody for help that person is not going to do anything that Allah did not write. So this person is only “ Sabab” coz there is nothing between Almighty Alah and his worshipper. Depends on your skills and abilities and make “ Do3aa” otherwise you are hypocrite coz you don’t have faith in Almighty Alah who has created this universal . you need Almighty Alah not human to help you to find a job. So it is hypocrisy disease.

      I haven’t get you point when you said “Wasta as another term to call it is good when you want to solve problems between people”
      Could you please give us more clarification.

      Sometimes Nepotism relates to money but Alhamdolah we aren’t in Romania and we don’t have Mafia.


      No worries ALBARON, and yeah I think I did a mistake there and I get the point now.

      I simply named wasta as networking and I shouldnt have done that. It's not another term to call wasta by but it's one of the reasons that would let us use wasta. networking is simply knowing people, normal or important individuals. From the step of knowing people we can then use the wasta for our benefit.

      Again wasta can be used when solving problems between any two bodies. For example, if I had a fight with you, Tenderness can be waseet to let us resolve the problem between us. I know Tenderness will convince you that problems happen and we can forget about everything, so I will use the wasta of knowing that piece of information to let him interfere and help us solve the problem.

    • Thank you all, and let me tell you something real. We have our own bussiness, and we are hiring people e have never known. That is normal, I know. We have brother who have just gatuated from university, could not find a job straight away...came to me, I apologized as there is no place for him

      I did that simply because by hiring him I would add a burden I am, in no need of because i want see our bussiness stepping forward

      I know I am talking about the private sector and I know it is totally different in the public sector......well, who goes and look for wasta in the public sector but a reckless one who has no power to work else and one who has no ambition but to sit there waiting for the salary by the nd of the month

      Most jobs are awarded on a competitional bases and only few are drawn away by wasta holders, yes it is bad, but why should we call it wasta and not just some knid of help. I do not expect a wasta or even a help would place me a doctor when I am with physics degree, or a driver when I am crippled

      Why calling it bad wasta when somebody I know urges him self and does things faster or press him self to do it for my sake and my sake only

      After all, there are negative examples, I know, but not to the degree we call it a disease and is destroying the country

      الاقربون اولى بالمعروف
      When you can offer to help others or Zakat and Sadakat then akraboon come first, and if you can do a favour for somebody then I guess alakraboon come first

      Well, I guess the eyes of the Japanese and Chinese players got NaWaR mixed up and got confused with WASTA & WASEET
      Anyway, I am ready to be Waseet and Wasta , wastet nakel, a but yaani
      lol

      10derness

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Thank you all, and let me tell you something real. We have our own bussiness, and we are hiring people e have never known. That is normal, I know. We have brother who have just gatuated from university, could not find a job straight away...came to me, I apologized as there is no place for him

      I did that simply because by hiring him I would add a burden I am, in no need of because i want see our bussiness stepping forward

      I know I am talking about the private sector and I know it is totally different in the public sector......well, who goes and look for wasta in the public sector but a reckless one who has no power to work else and one who has no ambition but to sit there waiting for the salary by the nd of the month

      Most jobs are awarded on a competitional bases and only few are drawn away by wasta holders, yes it is bad, but why should we call it wasta and not just some knid of help. I do not expect a wasta or even a help would place me a doctor when I am with physics degree, or a driver when I am crippled

      Why calling it bad wasta when somebody I know urges him self and does things faster or press him self to do it for my sake and my sake only

      After all, there are negative examples, I know, but not to the degree we call it a disease and is destroying the country

      الاقربون اولى بالمعروف
      When you can offer to help others or Zakat and Sadakat then akraboon come first, and if you can do a favour for somebody then I guess alakraboon come first

      Well, I guess the eyes of the Japanese and Chinese players got NaWaR mixed up and got confused with WASTA & WASEET
      Anyway, I am ready to be Waseet and Wasta , wastet nakel, a but yaani
      lol

      10derness


      Lol Tenderness, no it did not actually waseet comes from wasta.. but as you said there are negative example and positive ones. What I meant is the positive side of having wasta

      Cheers