Death & Dying

    • Death & Dying

      Death and Dying


      In one of my classes, Ethics for health professionals, the professor of the subject asked : why is death shocking?

      Everyone in the room seemed stunned, surprised and confused; gazing somewhere thinking about this unexpected question… not knowing what or how to answer it.

      I myself wondered and wondered. Maybe I had a lot of answers to it, but really it wasn’t at all easy to find a precise one for it. And so I think was the case with my classmates. Presumably because no one ever thought about it before. Maybe because actually no one talks about death unless there is a death that had suddenly or recently occurred to a known someone. It is a topic that seldom do people, of any age group, culture, religion think of talking about. At home, school, work, among friends or elsewhere this particular topic is not one of the preferred ones to bring up. It is an unpleasant topic particularly in our age group; where energy, life, health, studies, music, hope for tomorrow will be better, is basically what occupies our minds. Even with the elder, who often share about politics, religion, culture, plans, occasions, and celebrations, problems and solutions…etc. Those are the things that occupy people, and pull their minds and interests towards discussion.

      Death is a synonym of a full stop. It is that that has no tomorrow for in the life we know.

      I don’t really know why I chose this particular topic to write about. However I want to say that it caressed me and made me think differently about it in certain terms.

      It is one of those events that will happen to me one day like to all the creatures of the Almighty. Where or when, that I can not tell. But, I know now that I should prepare myself to lose someone close and help others, of whom I am close to, prepare themselves to lose me. Though it is hard to think of how to do that, yet discovering its reality and that it is a definite right to happen the way God plans and wishes. I don not find it weird, crazy or scary to talk about it, yet interesting and, in fact, wise. It also helped me understand more about it religiously. We all are ought to find about it in Quraan and Sunna, where it assures us that there is an after life and how to prepare for it promptly before it occurs.



      God’s blessings to all.

    • well i am sure that death is the sole distiny of all of us and i would say it's behind the door.
      one day we are going to lose someone or he is going to lose but believe me the life will go on and nothing will stop it until the day of judgement.
      we shouldnt think of death as an impending thing that will destroy the earth but we should be convinced that death is the natural end of any human being and that prove the equality between people.
      here is a wonderful poem that teach us that life do go on after the death and that the dying man wil be forgotten sooner or later. so enjoy the time you have and prepare yourself for your last journey
      the poem is about a dead man who comes to life again and asks his friend about the life after him. :)


      Is My Team Plowing
      "Is my team plowing,
      That I was used to drive
      And hear the harness jingle
      When I was man alive?"

      Ay, the horses trample,
      The harness jingles now;
      No change though you lie under
      The land you used to plow.

      "Is football playing
      Along the river shore,
      With lads to chase the leather,
      Now I stand up no more?"

      Ay, the ball is flying,
      The lads play heart and soul;
      The goal stands up, the keeper
      Stands up to keep the goal.

      "Is my girl happy,
      That I thought hard to leave,
      And has she tired of weeping
      As she lies down at eve?"

      Ay, she lies down lightly,
      She lies not down to weep:
      Your girl is well contented.
      Be still, my lad, and sleep.

      "Is my friend hearty,
      Now I am thin and pine,
      And has he found to sleep in
      A better bed than mine?"

      Yes, lad, I lie easy,
      I lie as lads would choose;
      I cheer a dead man's sweetheart,
      Never ask me whose.

    • Thank you dear amalsami for the effort and time you are giving, and thank you once again for this great argumental topic

      I propose reading this topic by our dear Mrs. Unfaithful and let us hear from you and we promise to come back to you for the sake of a fruitful discussion
      oman0.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64604

      Thank you amalsamt


      :)
      10denress

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Thank you dear amalsami for the effort and time you are giving, and thank you once again for this great argumental topic

      I propose reading this topic by our dear Mrs. Unfaithful and let us hear from you and we promise to come back to you for the sake of a fruitful discussion
      oman0.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64604

      Thank you amalsamt


      :)
      10denress




      Thank you Tenderness, I do appritiate this from you

      I wish I knew that something in regards to the same topic I posted was done by someone else earlier... However, I guess it's yet to be too late... how about we join this one to Mrs. Unfaithful's.

      Although I feel like her topic is more concerned with the importance of discussing Death with children. Where as here am more concerened with discussing it within one'sself

      I could say, commenting on both the sides of the topic, that adults rather start knowing about death better for them to convey it easily, perhaps, to their kids.

      The ways mentioned by the contributers need no further comment as they stand perfect on their own



      I realy am not so sure, but if you guys feel like it will be good to join the two posts into one, then that is pretty fine with me.


      Sami

    • Thank you dear amalsami
      and I opened the topic this morning knowing I am going to see this sentence


      Although I feel like her topic is more concerned with the importance of discussing Death with children
      .

      No dear, I am not going to joijn the topics together, I will leave yours on its own and leave it for discussion, but I thought it was worth mentioning the other topic

      I will come back, sure I will, and I am sure some will too

      Take Care
      10derness


    • It is funny and interesting how we think much less about death. One of the things that cannot be changed, cannot be rejected!! They know it's coming, but no one would want to talk about it or hear anything about it. As there is a start for everything, there is also an ending, we have to be brave enough to accept it

      the bird had such a lovely poem to share with us. Once people talk about death, memories flow in my mind like a storm in my head, splashing colourful memories and sad ones

      The most important thing is what we have prepared for it?? Maybe that's why it's shocking because we suddenly realize that we havent prepared anything. Live as if you are going to die tomorrow.. life is too short. Why is it shocking? Because we all know the consequences of death, we are losing someone, we feel sad, we live with memories and God help those who lost their close ones. It's not easy but we've gotta be strong and say it's alright, we're gonna meet someday after life my dear brother, cousin, grandfather...etc

      Thanks Sami

    • Why is death shocking
      Like Mrs. Unfaithful said once, let us talk away, or sort of, away from religious beliefs. I think we will be shocked hearing that we lost a car or money, let alone life
      And like NaWaR said, we should be shocked, as we will start to think of the results, are we prepared to die and face the consequences? When losing money as I said I will be shocked and then calm down, oh I can make money, again I want to cheer up and forget all over all about it, I have another chance, I will start over again, but with death ouch, I can do nothing and it looks it is all over and I have to face it
      Like whisper said, death is a horrible word that we hate and fear to hear

      One thing I want to add, death is an experience that is new every time, no body knows how we will feel then, nobody had ever conveyed what really happens. How we will be taken to the graveyard and put and left alone in grave and and, and I am not going to talk religion

      Death is shocking, we hear that somebody has died, we look shocked and start to ask, how old he/she was? How did he/she die, and why, sure we are going to miss him/her but all these questions are in fact to show how are we worried about ourselves, are we going to die like him/her, do we have the same symptoms he/she had causing death, it is shocking indeed

      10derness

    • I always say goodbye for my friends and my relatives when I leave them even if it was for hours. I asked from them to forgive me if I did something wrong for them because no body know if I saw them again. They usually scorn me to not say that, but I used to tell them it is something true and it may happen.
      Two years ago I said goodbye to one of my best friends and I asked Allah to see her again on Friday. But, I couldn’t see her again for she passed away in a horrible accident. I lost her for ever and her memory is the only thing which I have. I will never forget her smile. It was really difficult to forget her and I rally suffered a lot. But, thanks Allah that he bestow us the blessing of forgetting our grieves. And as Almaqhoor said that life goes on and we progress our natural life.
      Nawar said that death is always shocking but I think it is not always shocking. It depends in the case of the death and the age of the dead person. If a young person died in a horrible way (fatal accident or a heart, or a chest attack) that will be really shocking more than the death of an old man. I am saying that because I test these two conditions. The death of a close person to me by chest attack and she was in the end of her 20s affected a lot in me. I have to say that till today her death is still very hard to me. I also lost my granddad but it wasn't hard as the lose of my dear (may Allah bless their souls).
      So, we have to be ready at any moments for death by doing the good deeds in our lives.
      Thanks brother for this Topic.

    • غير الناس كتب:

      mmmmmmmmm

      thx for the topic true i was thinking about death and i was mmmmmmmmmm ??? so we need to know about it more and to be ready for it:):)





      i
      really wonder '7eer alnas, what is the matter with mmmmmmmmmm in most of ur replies?

      Is it the first letter of your name or what ~!@q

    • Sami,
      What awesome words you put … I did enjoy reading your thoughts

      It doesn’t matter if we talked about it before or not, it’s always nice to share more views. And, believe it or not, talking about Death to children totally reflects what the adult himself thinks and believes about Death

      I will have to comment out something you said
      “It also helped me understand more about it religiously. We all are ought to find about it in Quraan and Sunna, where it assures us that there is an after life and how to prepare for it promptly before it occurs “

      I really do not wish to go through this, because it’s something I think is very personal for you. It is human nature to fear the unknown, and one of the things to provide security and reassurance is to believe that certain things are behind that unknown. No one ever died and got up again and told us what exactly it was like. No matter what anyone believes, it stays unknown. We can’t deny that
      We will all experience the one and only Death. “We” as in every person on earth We’re united with the color of our blood, with the air we breathe, and with the One sun that shines on every soul without exclusion whatsoever
      Appreciating and valuing Life will make you leave it with a smile on your face, whether that appreciation and value come of religion, earthly beliefs, or merely respect and compassion. The life of a child in Africa or a man in Korea is as equally valuable as the life of your parent or your sibling, again no matter what the religion (or the lack of it) is
      Of course our reality and how materialism have taken over us, Death is no longer the absence of Life. Each day we live and what happens in the world is absent of Life!!!!i
      I think before people try to understand and comprehend what death is, they should think and understand what Life is

      By the way, I don’t mean to sound like Mother Teresa. Just wanted to share a thought with you (haven’t slept well for the past 8 years… my thought may be an illusion to myself too)i

      Thanks again Sami, and hope to see more of your interesting topics

    • Tenderness كتب:

      I don’t mean to sound like Mother Teresa


      How stupid I am, I thought she died few years ago
      :P

      Anyway, thanks Mrs. for the positive participation

      Take Care
      10derness


      You're Welcome, Mr. yetfalsaf-bdoon-ma3na

      Actaully,Two days ago, it was the 7th year aniversary for her Death
      (allah yer7amhaa)

      The person does not have to be alive for you to sound like them!!!! :rolleyes: i

    • thank you dear friend for this nice topic
      it is something which remind us about this world which we are busy.honestly we think about death only we hear that someone has died of something.moreover if we have faith,we are always aware of death and the hereafter day which is the most important.
      many thanks my dear friend for this invaluable topics
      regards

    • EvilsEye كتب:

      thank you dear friend for this nice topic
      it is something which remind us about this world which we are busy.honestly we think about death only we hear that someone has died of something.moreover if we have faith,we are always aware of death and the hereafter day which is the most important.
      many thanks my dear friend for this invaluable topics
      regards


      You are absolutely right dear EvilsEye
      Nice to see you here with us, and we are sure we are going to see more of you

      regards
      :)

    • eL3aJoOoZ_NaWaR كتب:


      It is funny and interesting how we think much less about death. One of the things that cannot be changed, cannot be rejected!! They know it's coming, but no one would want to talk about it or hear anything about it. As there is a start for everything, there is also an ending, we have to be brave enough to accept it

      the bird had such a lovely poem to share with us. Once people talk about death, memories flow in my mind like a storm in my head, splashing colourful memories and sad ones

      The most important thing is what we have prepared for it?? Maybe that's why it's shocking because we suddenly realize that we havent prepared anything. Live as if you are going to die tomorrow.. life is too short. Why is it shocking? Because we all know the consequences of death, we are losing someone, we feel sad, we live with memories and God help those who lost their close ones. It's not easy but we've gotta be strong and say it's alright, we're gonna meet someday after life my dear brother, cousin, grandfather...etc

      thnx again

      Thanks Sami


      Thank you Nawar

      Shocking to those of us who know very well that " As there is a start for everything, there is also an ending" But when it's then death is forseen it is when we ask ourselves: " what we have prepared for it??" ....

      Consequences of death, are that you get no more chances to make up what you have not done right or get to do what you have missed when you had all the time to do...

      Losing someone is like losing a part of your life.. that with them it feels like complete, where without them.. we miss great things... that's what one would feel in the begining at least even though life has to carry on after that...

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Why is death shocking
      Like Mrs. Unfaithful said once, let us talk away, or sort of, away from religious beliefs. I think we will be shocked hearing that we lost a car or money, let alone life
      And like NaWaR said, we should be shocked, as we will start to think of the results, are we prepared to die and face the consequences? When losing money as I said I will be shocked and then calm down, oh I can make money, again I want to cheer up and forget all over all about it, I have another chance, I will start over again, but with death ouch, I can do nothing and it looks it is all over and I have to face it
      Like whisper said, death is a horrible word that we hate and fear to hear

      One thing I want to add, death is an experience that is new every time, no body knows how we will feel then, nobody had ever conveyed what really happens. How we will be taken to the graveyard and put and left alone in grave and and, and I am not going to talk religion

      Death is shocking, we hear that somebody has died, we look shocked and start to ask, how old he/she was? How did he/she die, and why, sure we are going to miss him/her but all these questions are in fact to show how are we worried about ourselves, are we going to die like him/her, do we have the same symptoms he/she had causing death, it is shocking indeed

      10derness


      That's nature bro #j

    • Scream كتب:

      I always say goodbye for my friends and my relatives when I leave them even if it was for hours. I asked from them to forgive me if I did something wrong for them because no body know if I saw them again.

      That's very good attitude of you dear Scream... realizing that death is not something that is gonna warn us before it occurs... and the example you added of your dear friend ( Allah yi'3d roo7ha eljana) is an excelent one to encourage your attitude.

      thank you sister

    • Thank you dear Mrs. Unfaithful... and am glad to know that you enjoyed reading through my thoughts

      “It also helped me understand more about it religiously. We all are ought to find about it in Quraan and Sunna, where it assures us that there is an after life and how to prepare for it promptly before it occurs “

      As I see it a reminder to me I thought reminding others on the same will be good... yet as you said at the end it is personal

      You are absolutly right when you said:"I think before people try to understand and comprehend what death is, they should think and understand what Life is"

      I see it that way and I see how life should go when I understand about death exactly like wise

      personnaly I believe these two phenomena walk side by side... as life starts the walk to death also starts... and knowing where you are heading and how you wnat your end to be like should lead you through ways of living right..

      Thnx Mrs.
      By the way I truelly enjoy your discussions and the way you express your opinions most of the time

    • Am not intending to close this discussion.. but I have felt that it stopped at some point as per each of the contributors... and we could probably carry on discussing it each from a personal point of view

      Shock: to me is an instinctive feeling or behaviour.... thus it is natural, there is nothing wrong with feeling shocked at some time about something occuing in our life somehow. It's like fear, happiness, anger, sadness.... etc

      and shock as a reaction to a lose is nothing wrong either... if we get shocked because we lost a property and it's ok to feel so, then feeling shocked when we lose someone tells us more about how strongly we are attatched to one another, and how important it is to have each other around to feel untited, to feel belonging and feel needed...

      Death.. we can't deny!... I can't deny is shocking to all of us... maybe not when we hear that it had occured to someone we didn't know well... but indeed when you have that someone you meet with every single day, and spend hours with wether studying, working, living with.. and wether that is a close relative or a close buddy, gone just at a blink.... sure is shocking

      Because by losing that someone you lose a lot... you name it.... it's a lot...

      But we shouldn't let that natural thing to happen to be over us.. and drive us away from reality, and that death is a right to humens. By preparying ourselves and others for such a lose is crucial then for a normal, short lasting shock

      Religiously... I find myself connecting this subject to religion most of the time... because it's where I learn about it mostly... we all agree that we should prepare ourselves promptly to meet with our creator the way he pleases and we desire


      My dearest regards to all :)

      c ya later