i dont wanna to go to school

    • i dont wanna to go to school

      hiiiiiii every body...........

      actually i am coming here to ask for your help.......i have a topic with a new idea ......i need your point of view .......so please think about the issue deeply and try to analyze it according to our daily life...............


      i was thinking about an issue i can bring up and being argued ............a teacher suggested for me to talk about the way in which schools structured in OMAN...........i found it very exciting when it comes to be compared with the westren schools ............so here the quiestion.......

      does the structure of schools, and i mean by structure the building, affect the psychology of students ? is the way that schools in OMAN look impact students'attitudes towards learning,attending schools? and remmeber we discuss the issue in the light of comparing OMANI SCHOOLS with WESTREN SCHOOLS..........
      i believe that i haven't elaborated in that but i hope thay you can raise very important points clearify the issue from every aspects .................

    • believe that i haven't elaborated in that but i hope thay you can raise very important points clearify the issue from every aspects


      Exactly saqarr2005
      Talking about schools, means we talk about the ministtry of the information, the family, the education body, the pupils, the culture, the habbits, the traditions

      I hope you start off so we can follow and be more specific

      Welcome home dear
      :)

    • Tenderness كتب:

      believe that i haven't elaborated in that but i hope thay you can raise very important points clearify the issue from every aspects


      Exactly saqarr2005
      Talking about schools, means we talk about the ministtry of the information, the family, the education body, the pupils, the culture, the habbits, the traditions

      I hope you start off so we can follow and be more specific

      Welcome home dear
      :)

      thank you dear,but i think i restricted my topic in the impact of school building on students'psychology and i think this is very spicific ................

    • saqarr2005 كتب:

      thank you dear,but i think i restricted my topic in the impact of school building on students'psychology and i think this is very spicific ................


      Sorry saqar2005, looks I got things mixed up, I do a pologize

      I believe the building structure, and the lay out of the school has a great impact on the students. I believe you mean westen schools the ones in the west and not say, english or german or french here in oman, anyway, I have seen both, and if they are still in mind I would say the western school looks as apetitizer if I spelled correct. The boys or girls just feel relaxed looking around, the class room is different, they do not give you the impression you are in a march like room, and give you the feeling you are free

      Toilets and other services just make it easy for you to not want to go home to go to the toilet. Play grounds is another

      if you consider the students and teachers as part of the building then this is a different story. Elegance and cleanliness are the last we think of

      Why do we tend to make a room for our kids that are well decorated and clean? why?and never bother about school?, is it because we are bringing our child up at home, and forgetting we are doing the same at school

      I hope I am into the subject, and will surely come back
      :)

    • It deepens



      For children the school structure may affect them and also the teacher but I think that the teacher has the most influence



      But for teenager I don't think so



      They are old enough to know what is best fro them



      By that way brother the structure of schools now is better than before especially for children and teenager as well I mean in basic Education

      This system is similar to western schools wait after 10 years more u will #hfind that our schools are like them in every thin even subject



      They have already started with this now ~!@@ad



      Step by step$$g



    • Here Im back to the subject.. dear saqerr2005.. the physical appearance does have an impact and to some extent only as I said previously. Now as Tenderness explained the the way the school has been built does affect as well as the facilities of the school.. but let me say here that the way the learning and teaching process is done is also different and so the building will have to be appropriate and goes along with the way teaching and learning is conducted. For example, what we call in Oman family studies or tarbeyah usareyah the room where the class is taken is not as safe as it is supposed to be. There is a cooker, gas tube, knives..etc and all safety cautions should be taken into account to make the school a safe place, having that level of security will make the students more comfortable

      Now talking about class rooms before we go to the building itself, they are good now in the last few years, but again there should be a regular maintenance undertaken for the ACs, Fans, powerpoints..etc. Cleanliness; students have to be educated about it very well and strictly

      In Oman unfortunately the building are not appropriate for disabled people at all, and again I feel sorry for the physically disabled students to be so seperated from other normal students. From what I have seen in the schools here in Australia, facitilies for disabled students is considered one of the highest priorities, such as special toilets for them, footpath to make it easy for them to get around the school.. About the play grounds, our schools have very limited areas for such things. Or they can have playgrounds for schools in certain areas and all students of that area can do their activities there if the school is too small which I believe they are not.. The structure of the school makes me feel so much in a isolated place from home. I dont need something looks like my house but something that is comfortable and inpsires me to study, the colour of the walls, the type of bricks and tiles used, the chairs and tables..etc it all has an impact on the student

      seeing the buildings in Oman is not really bad, they are easy and simple because we dont have as many students as the western countries.. surely we will have to have a future look at the number of students later on but I dont think the structure of the buildings for schools in Oman is bad at all.. they just lack facitilies and progressicve maintenance

      One of the things I remember I hated about school is having eco everywhere I go. Perhaps if the school was not so open, it would have been better because even in summer, it is hard for class rooms to get cool quickly. Most of the schools use normal ACs, but if had a structure that keeps all classrooms in one building and then have a Central AC that can be controlled in every room, it would be cheaper for the school itself to pay for the electricity. I mean the type of ACs that you will find in the hospitals. I prefer those ones for safety reasons.

      But I also believe that the more attention we pay to the schools' architecture, the more students become aware of it and start feeling the affect of the architecture design

      I will be back if I have something else in my mind, but this is what I could spit out for now

      Thanks a lot dear and I think it is a very nice topic to discuss
      Cheers

    • hi dear its a nice point u choose. yeh ofcourse there r many differents in our schools and western schools. but im happy what our schools r doing now adays, i mean ataleem al asasi. its good coz the teach english well and also other subjects. well i have many ideas in my mind but i want to make them true when i will becmoe a teacher as my major is english . so hope u come to good ideas.

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Sorry saqar2005, looks I got things mixed up, I do a pologize

      I believe the building structure, and the lay out of the school has a great impact on the students. I believe you mean westen schools the ones in the west and not say, english or german or french here in oman, anyway, I have seen both, and if they are still in mind I would say the western school looks as apetitizer if I spelled correct. The boys or girls just feel relaxed looking around, the class room is different, they do not give you the impression you are in a march like room, and give you the feeling you are free

      Toilets and other services just make it easy for you to not want to go home to go to the toilet. Play grounds is another

      if you consider the students and teachers as part of the building then this is a different story. Elegance and cleanliness are the last we think of

      Why do we tend to make a room for our kids that are well decorated and clean? why?and never bother about school?, is it because we are bringing our child up at home, and forgetting we are doing the same at school

      I hope I am into the subject, and will surely come back
      :)



      thank you dear TENDERNESS, i think now you got the point i tend to discuss.............yes,it is so important to prepare not just comfortable atmosphere but also appetizing one as you mentioned................as i can see our classrooms tend to be dry if i could express correct.....they don't encourage students to feel free to speak .........thier paint give you the impression of keep silent,be more serious ,and if you want to sleep as well.........i think it lacks the spirit of vitality .............but if the classroom is more colorful ,it gives you worm feeling at least you will feel as if your home...........






      i hope you can add further ideas.............see you later

    • eL3aJoOoZ_NaWaR كتب:


      Here Im back to the subject.. dear saqerr2005.. the physical appearance does have an impact and to some extent only as I said previously. Now as Tenderness explained the the way the school has been built does affect as well as the facilities of the school.. but let me say here that the way the learning and teaching process is done is also different and so the building will have to be appropriate and goes along with the way teaching and learning is conducted. For example, what we call in Oman family studies or tarbeyah usareyah the room where the class is taken is not as safe as it is supposed to be. There is a cooker, gas tube, knives..etc and all safety cautions should be taken into account to make the school a safe place, having that level of security will make the students more comfortable

      Now talking about class rooms before we go to the building itself, they are good now in the last few years, but again there should be a regular maintenance undertaken for the ACs, Fans, powerpoints..etc. Cleanliness; students have to be educated about it very well and strictly

      In Oman unfortunately the building are not appropriate for disabled people at all, and again I feel sorry for the physically disabled students to be so seperated from other normal students. From what I have seen in the schools here in Australia, facitilies for disabled students is considered one of the highest priorities, such as special toilets for them, footpath to make it easy for them to get around the school.. About the play grounds, our schools have very limited areas for such things. Or they can have playgrounds for schools in certain areas and all students of that area can do their activities there if the school is too small which I believe they are not.. The structure of the school makes me feel so much in a isolated place from home. I dont need something looks like my house but something that is comfortable and inpsires me to study, the colour of the walls, the type of bricks and tiles used, the chairs and tables..etc it all has an impact on the student

      seeing the buildings in Oman is not really bad, they are easy and simple because we dont have as many students as the western countries.. surely we will have to have a future look at the number of students later on but I dont think the structure of the buildings for schools in Oman is bad at all.. they just lack facitilies and progressicve maintenance

      One of the things I remember I hated about school is having eco everywhere I go. Perhaps if the school was not so open, it would have been better because even in summer, it is hard for class rooms to get cool quickly. Most of the schools use normal ACs, but if had a structure that keeps all classrooms in one building and then have a Central AC that can be controlled in every room, it would be cheaper for the school itself to pay for the electricity. I mean the type of ACs that you will find in the hospitals. I prefer those ones for safety reasons.

      But I also believe that the more attention we pay to the schools' architecture, the more students become aware of it and start feeling the affect of the architecture design

      I will be back if I have something else in my mind, but this is what I could spit out for now

      Thanks a lot dear and I think it is a very nice topic to discuss
      Cheers



      but dear how we can develope,if we don't give our attention to things that can aafect our student negitivly..............i think the impact of this kind of structure can sneak into students' psychology without pointing to it...........moreover,you yourself admit that there is an effect ,so why do we ignore realities if they actually exist............can you tell me why many children hate school ...........why mothers are always complaining my child refuses going to school..........you may say not just the structure of the school..........but think about it deeply......

    • saqarr2005 كتب:

      but dear how we can develope,if we don't give our attention to things that can aafect our student negitivly..............i think the impact of this kind of structure can sneak into students' psychology without pointing to it...........moreover,you yourself admit that there is an effect ,so why do we ignore realities if they actually exist............can you tell me why many children hate school ...........why mothers are always complaining my child refuses going to school..........you may say not just the structure of the school..........but think about it deeply......


      saqatt2005 is talking to you eL3aJoOoZ_NaWaR :) , but allow me to add few lines I found myself itchy to put down as saqarr mentioned something about mothers
      Sad to say many mothers do not even know what grade are their children at, and with this fact I am not surprised to see children refusing to go to school. I remember a mother remembering or knew that her son had a test and all she could do is taking him out on thursday and friday to realize the bitter fact late friday
      I know it is her som's fault not telling her but she also has much of the blame......family follo up is very important

      sinourina, let us have your ideas NOW, by the time you become a teacher inshallah I am sure new ones will come to your mind
      :)

    • saqarr2005 كتب:

      but dear how we can develope,if we don't give our attention to things that can aafect our student negitivly..............i think the impact of this kind of structure can sneak into students' psychology without pointing to it...........moreover,you yourself admit that there is an effect ,so why do we ignore realities if they actually exist............can you tell me why many children hate school ...........why mothers are always complaining my child refuses going to school..........you may say not just the structure of the school..........but think about it deeply......


      hello.. developing the structure doesnt mean we have to change the whole thing, myself, i may not be able to accept the new structure because i've always got used to it and if it changes then that could affect me negatively. What I mean the maintaining the facilities can make it easier and we really dont have to change the whole structure of the building

      Feeling sneaking into students, yeah it could happen but that's not the only reason, many reasons are also included, the teacher, other students, family..etc. Trust me we dont need a fancy looking building, although it will have a very big influence because it looks beauitful and I do admit it but it's something extra that we do not need and it is not out of ignorance because Im sure we can work out the psychology part of it before coming down to blame the structure of the building. I believe in environmental psychology and no doubt that it does inspire students, but again it's better we work on the other reasons before we reach the building itself

      why many children hate schools? there are millions of reasons other than the building structure and I would say at my time the schools lacked regular maintenance. for example, back in the dark ages I used to hate to go school because the ACs wouldnt work in summer, if the school had better cooling system, I might have accepted the idea that the classroom would be as comfortable as home. I do not need a leather chair but instead of those wooden crap chairs, it would be better to have those that has some sort of fabric on them so that it doesnt hurt our backsides :P

      why mothers complain, of course this comes down from the possible reasons I've just mentioned above in terms of the structure of the building and yeah again I would say that it is not only the building structure. I will tell you something, the culture of running away from school exists everywhere and the reason, i think, we had the structure we have now is to keep students within this border, now i dont know how the numbering system of the classrooms work, but maybe it will be also easier to have an easy one..

      will be back for sure

    • thanks both of you TENDERNESS and ANWAR.......................as all of us know there are several reasons cause children bolting of school..........i think you go little bit far from the essential topic i would like to discuss.........if we try to give suggestions to improve the current structure, what would you suggest? leave the other reasons and let us work in this if you don't mind .........


    • Dear saqqar

      As much as I know how enthusiastic you are about this topic, it’s just a so vague and unclear what exactly are you trying to know??s

      What exactly do you mean by "structure"???s

      From what I understood is that you're pointing at how the actual architecture of the School building could influence the learning experience of the students.. whether positively or negatively.

      The hygiene and maintenance of the school are a whole another issue (water coolers , ACs, appliances, etc)

      There are so many fancy nice structured schools, and still students hate school.
      What they hate is "studying, homework, obligations".... not the building

      Still hope you could elaborate a little more on this topic ... just to be all on one track here :)i

    • Mrs.Unfaithful كتب:


      Dear saqqar

      As much as I know how enthusiastic you are about this topic, it’s just a so vague and unclear what exactly are you trying to know??s

      What exactly do you mean by "structure"???s

      From what I understood is that you're pointing at how the actual architecture of the School building could influence the learning experience of the students.. whether positively or negatively.

      The hygiene and maintenance of the school are a whole another issue (water coolers , ACs, appliances, etc)

      There are so many fancy nice structured schools, and still students hate school.
      What they hate is "studying, homework, obligations".... not the building

      Still hope you could elaborate a little more on this topic ... just to be all on one track here :)i


      Well, here is my first response and I wonder whether it is still valid


      Exactly saqarr2005
      Talking about schools, means we talk about the ministtry of the information, the family, the education body, the pupils, the culture, the habbits, the traditions

      I hope you start off so we can follow and be more specific

      Welcome home dear

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Well, here is my first response and I wonder whether it is still valid


      Exactly saqarr2005
      Talking about schools, means we talk about the ministtry of the information, the family, the education body, the pupils, the culture, the habbits, the traditions

      I hope you start off so we can follow and be more specific

      Welcome home dear



      He already replied to you on that..
      Apparently he exclusively wants to discuss the effect of the Structure/building of the schooll on the students


      Besides .. what you're suggesting is very VERY broad.. and it would be complicated to discuss it altogether just like that

    • Mrs.Unfaithful كتب:




      He already replied to you on that..
      Apparently he exclusively wants to discuss the effect of the Structure/building of the schooll on the students


      Besides .. what you're suggesting is very VERY broad.. and it would be complicated to discuss it altogether just like that


      OK OK, easy on me
      :)
      Ramadan kareem