Just imagine that ur living in a society in which there is no marriage

    • Just imagine that ur living in a society in which there is no marriage

      assalaam u alaikum

      i would like to discuss an interesting issue.i know that almost all socities have this process but what i want is just imagine that all societies are marriagless and the term marriage is not exist.how would life be like.is there be any difference from the lives of animals or it would be similar to animals lives.
      please just imagine from from ur mind there is no marriag,the write what you see there.

      i hope u find this interesting and im looking forward to ur commints #j

      REGARDS

    • interisting theory mate
      ~!@q ~!@q ~!@q

      hmmm i think most of the countries do live in this role these days

      i mean the non muslim countries
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      but if u want my opinion

      i think life would be so bad since i think that being married is to support your patner in hardships and joy times

      plus they do not get married so if one got into deap trouble the other can run forgeting about the other

      and dont forget all sort of desises will spread due do multi sex with different ppl

    • wow... !!! what made you imagine this weird theory !!!i
      :confused:

      to tell you the truth, i had to think alot... really.. what difference would it be if there was no marriage .. in the legal and social terms of cource... because technically.. people would still meet and mate and have children.. but without a legal or moral term ! right???s

      i think that will not be similar to animals as you suggested, EvilsEye, because animals ... since God created them, have been following thier nature.. and thier nature is to be the way they are... while with humans.. its not human nature to be without laws .. without orders .. and without tracking down who's child is who !!!!i

      so my point is... marriage is the legal/religous tie for people's relationships... and without marriage .. there will be no order!!! there will be no legal proof that these people are together.. its a mess!!!i

      It will also be very boring when two people meet and "decide" to be a "couple" and have children just like that.. no proposal.. no wedding.. no marriage rituals.. its boring!!i

      you say lets imagine a world without marraige..
      It woudl be a HORRIBLE world.. and its disturbing enough to just think of such a thing

      But ... if answered your questions in a different way.. what if there was no such thing as marriage AT ALL? i mean since the rise of human civilization.. no marriage at all
      to answer this.. i think people would have adopted to this situation.. and things would have been going with the flow.. because we would never imagine our lives without something we never had.. right? in this case.. i think it would be a very similar world to our world now

    • Society or a world with no marriage ~!@q , I really wonder what made you think of such thing ~!@q , was it for fun? or you are doing some research or something

      Once again I am surprised where your imagination is taking you and us as a result

      Marriage, is either legal sex, or just adultery as sex & marriage are concerned
      Sex outside marriage is just an act of adultery, and adultery is a sin and a taboo not only in Islam but also in all religions and beliefs

      BUT wait, is marriage only sex? Or you could have meant other things without our awareness or is marriage just a kind of relationship in and to form a society

      With or without marriage life will go on, human kind will carry on to exist as it is now

      I do not really know what to add or say but would like to thank
      التنين الاحمر
      and Mrs.Unfaithful for the concepts they talked about and I guess we all are waiting for you to come and comment and let us hear what is your point behind this topic and how you really see a world with no marriage

      Thank you dear EvilsEye

    • Hey all,التنين الاحمر ,Mrs.unfaithful and tenderness.thanks to all you for ur reply.
      first of all i want to tell you that im not doing any research on this topic because i have finished everything as far as researches are concerned in this semester.
      It was just an idea which strucked my mind maybe(an evil idea) and i thought it would be interesting to share it with other and how they view it.
      What made me think about it?well, a lady was doing a presentation in the class about divorce and the was the last presentation of the semester and believe was very boring because i have been through this topic many times previously.but when she was doing the introduction with some rhetoric questions and she said why people marry and what lead them to divorce? i obviously knew the answer and probably all the class did. and then i thought what if she ask this question the other way around?why the term marriage is exist and what if there was no marriage, and sure if there was no marriage, there would not be any word like'DIVORCE'........i wanted to ask this question in the class but i thought it would be very difficult for her to answer this question and it may affect her grade.
      But i then really thought that this is interesting topic to be discussed and thus i decided to post it here.....im reallllllyyyy sorry if i hurt any of you........


      التنين الاحمر i dont think that there is any much difference between muslim countries and other as far as marriage and adultery is concerned.in both both these stuffs are being practiced but the difference is that non muslim countries do not hide when they do it. and i dont think it fix in this topic since now the term marriage is known to all of us and even if somebody do adultry or born a child without marrying, everybody will give it a name like"bastard" or illigitimate.....what im trying to tell is that if the term marriage was not exist, would we be able to say that he or she is a illigitimate child, the answer is no.
      I agree with you as far as diseases are concerned......

      Mrs.unfaithful....in marriageless society would you find term moral and legal???? its for sure that there would be no legal and moral children but they dont care about since this terms would not be availabel....what you think???and i think life would be similar to animals because there is no marriage in animals lives because the law marriage would not be exist so it is the same...im i right???

      what if there was no such thing as marriage AT ALL? i mean since the rise of human civilization.. no marriage at all

      thank you for making my question easier that what i meant unfathfull...and sorry for making it ambigous its because of my english and im trying to improve it....thats what i reall mean

      no is it important to adop it in order to know it...cant we imagine and compare it with recent situations.....???

      tenderness: how marriage can be adultery?can you still use adultry to couples who are married?
      and is the term sin and adultry would be there in marriageless society...how?
      i dont meant marriage only sex but also other things as you mentioned and sorry for not making it more clear and the reason is my language.....but i think SEX is primariy in marriage and without it it is impossible to last...other things come after it...thats what i think.....

      im looking forward to ur replies and i want you to watch my comments critically and sorry if anything is not clear.
      regards

    • التنين الاحمر i dont think that there is any much difference between muslim countries and other as far as marriage and adultery is concerned.in both both these stuffs are being practiced but the difference is that non muslim countries do not hide when they do it. and i dont think it fix in this topic since now the term marriage is known to all of us and even if somebody do adultry or born a child without marrying, everybody will give it a name like"bastard" or illigitimate.....what im trying to tell is that if the term marriage was not exist, would we be able to say that he or she is a illigitimate child, the answer is no.
      I agree with you as far as diseases are concerned......


      now that is a different theory

      never thought of it
      ~!@q $$t ~!@q $$t ~!@q $$t ~!@q

      but to make it true

      it freaks me out

      ahhh i neeed to think about that

      never thought about it or even came into my mind

      a life with not
      consept
      as
      marriage
      ~!@q $$t ~!@q $$t ~!@q $$t ~!@q

      mate i am really freaked
      now

      Thnax for nothing
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      dont create a non marriage movement thing

      oky
      :confused:

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      as far as things go all i could think of
      was getting the right job and finding the perfect women for my self

      other than that i have no idea
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      i will think about it and then tell you
      about it

      oky

    • tenderness: how marriage can be adultery?can you still use adultry to couples who are married?

      No dear, never meant it that way, NO WAY

      Talking about divorce leads us to the fact that there is marriage and just imagining there is no marriage then there will not be any talk about marriage, they ae related

      Once again, no divorce, no legal sex and illigitamate children all lead to non-married status

      Again, I guess Marriage as we call it in Arabic comes from mating, put together, and become two or a pair or just a couple :) , we say
      زوج احذية
      زوجين رجل وامرأة
      Oh well, if what I said is applicable then there is no such thing as marriageless state and the question that can and still exists whether it is legal or not or whether it is both Sharie & legal

      :)

    • Tenderness كتب:

      tenderness: how marriage can be adultery?can you still use adultry to couples who are married?

      No dear, never meant it that way, NO WAY

      Talking about divorce leads us to the fact that there is marriage and just imagining there is no marriage then there will not be any talk about marriage, they ae related

      Once again, no divorce, no legal sex and illigitamate children all lead to non-married status

      Again, I guess Marriage as we call it in Arabic comes from mating, put together, and become two or a pair or just a couple :) , we say
      زوج احذية
      زوجين رجل وامرأة
      Oh well, if what I said is applicable then there is no such thing as marriageless state and the question that can and still exists whether it is legal or not or whether it is both Sharie & legal

      :)


      Hey tenderness, i know that since we born living in this idea. what iam trying to tell that what if there was no marriage? and how life would be like without it?
      it is just the matter of logic and thats why it is puzzling and the answer is difficult or may not be exist at all
      thank you for your reply
      and thank you التنين الاحمر and sorry for disturbing you
      regards

    • EvilsEye كتب:

      Hey tenderness, i know that since we born living in this idea. what iam trying to tell that what if there was no marriage? and how life would be like without it?
      it is just the matter of logic and thats why it is puzzling and the answer is difficult or may not be exist at all
      thank you for your reply
      and thank you التنين الاحمر and sorry for disturbing you
      regards


      ~!@@ad
      Read me again ~!@@ai

      We will simply keep mating and breed
      :P

    • hi tenderness thank you reply. it seems that you are the only person in english forum who is most active as far as this topic is concerned and the other friends who replied at the beggining have just given up....
      dear it is clear that im finding your language difficult or your not understanding my broken english....
      If you imagine a society without marriage you can say many things about it. i mean just imagine you are sitting for you final exam and saw this question.you cannot just say it as we have been discussing it.you have to create a picture in which people are living in a marriagless society and the incidents which may happen in it....for example first we can think of the society in which we are living in. the society in which marriage is something obligatory and without it the life will turn into chaos....and through marriage a child can be identified who he\she belongs to and what he\she can possesses from his\her parents.will one can save his\her property without marriage...i mean can one know in marriageless society who is his son son that he or she can take care of his property......name..... and so on...
      honestly telling you my friend im also confused with this topic but i still believe that it is interesting...i dont know why...

      also i want to know what does this sentence mean(((will simply keep mating and breed))))...

      regardsssss

    • :)
      I was reading through and decided to say that we will keep mating and breed to find out that you were asking about it and what did it mean

      Well, it means we will get married #i though we are living in a marriageless world, in other words we will become couples and mate, in other words have sex and produce children
      $$-e

      I will walk in the streets calling every body "papa" in papa means something then and call every boy as brother and every girl as a sister if that ever mean anything then

      BUT
      WAIT
      Could marriage then be replaced by something called LOVE? and we love somebody then and be with, who knows? and I wonder if you would ever meet a lady and call her Mrs. All
      #i
      and if you ever ask me what was my name then I would say
      Tenderness for all, and All for Tenderness

      I know I am telling bull shit but sorry
      I cannot imagine myself living in such a world
      :)

    • Mrs.unfaithful....in marriageless society would you find term moral and legal???? its for sure that there would be no legal and moral children but they dont care about since this terms would not be available....what you think??? and i think life would be similar to animals because there is no marriage in animals lives because the law marriage would not be exist so it is the same...im i right???

      what if there was no such thing as marriage AT ALL? i mean since the rise of human civilization.. no marriage at all

      thank you for making my question easier that what i meant unfaithful...and sorry for making it ambiguous its because of my English and im trying to improve it....that’s what i really mean

      no is it important to adop it in order to know it...cant we imagine and compare it with recent situations.....???


      I still insist it would not at all be similar to animals lives, think about it, animals live by their instinct, while humans have Control and Will over their instinct
      A Marriage-less society does not necessarily imply a promiscuous society. Maybe people will not go through the laws and rules of the marriage, but they would still form couples who prefer each other and only be with each other

      Maybe the closest, least disturbing resemblance to a marriage-less society is the Hippies ways of life. They believe in love, but not in marriage. Couples live with each other and have children without marriage, because marriage is a “constraint” from society/government in order to control peoples’ relationships
      It’s a CIVIL LAW
      Of course we are not hippies... But what I meant to say is that without marriage there would be less laws and rules controlling us.... As you said... No divorce... no adultery... no" illegitimate children" as a label.... The only thing that would be controlling is people’s intentions on being monogamous... and people’s desires and will

      On the other hand, it would be really hard to form a society in the first place! after, lets say, one generation, probably no one would be able to keep track of thier offspring .. No government papers.. no records... no identity!!!!i

      But again, Morals... values.. respect... and love are not Goverment laws... they are people choices
      We see now alot of marriages with No morals.. No values.. No respect.. and No love
      SO it would not be imposible to have those things without marriage

    • Mrs.unfaithful.... I think what he ment was how would u live with out marriage as in sex (hope this word is no problem to explain it - Tenderness if it is then tell me to change it)
      am i reight EvilsEye
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      this Y i couldnt really be a help to you couse i have never ever thought of such things

      will come to think about it

      the human reace will vanish with in 30 years if this happend
      :confused: :confused:

      no children

      that what i could think about

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      now that i have mentioned it
      if any one created a biological weopens
      that will do such things to humans
      it will be dangoures
      no kids
      no race
      &
      good bye humans
      +
      all the other creatures will be happy since they managed to get rid of the one who pollutes the earth and harm their peacefull living

    • Hi all, i really about impressed with these replies and thank you dear tenderness for your sweet words....i think im learning somehow......what you say really make sense and not bullshits....can love replace marriage???it is another question...will love can dominate a marriagless society? Do love exist in these days between couples or it is a kind of lust!!!!!!!!! i dont believe in love....i mean falling in love with somebody and then marrying her.....what i believe is that love comes after marriage......and if two person fall in love b4 marriage thats mean there is some kind of lust in it..thats what i believe.

      thank you mrs unfaithfull,,what you wrote really good...you are right that it cannot be like animals since there would be love...........but love without marriage....dont you think love changes with time....and if one feds up wont he look for someone else....the way western fell in love with each other and become pregnant b4 marriage and then it end up in divorce even b4 marriage....i mean end their relationships b4 getting married. there are many peope who fall in love and married then end up in divorce.why? love changes with time and that also could be a big problem in a marriagless society....again it become similar to animals....
      so dear tenderness then you can say everybody papa or everyone sister or you cannot call anybody papa or sister since you do not know who you belong to....you may prefer not to say it or vice versa.


      dear red dragon you still didnt get the point....ses would be exist but without marriage.

      thank you all for your replies
      regards

    • Mrs.Unfaithful كتب:

      And Thank you EvilsEye for this topic
      really makes one think about something that we take forgranted
      :)

      Red Dragon.... lol

      sorry but loool

      So to you Marriage = sex????s


      ~!@@ad

      :)


      no i dont think marriage as sex only it is more than that

      he if i explained wht is marriage to me it will take the hole day
      #i #i #i

      when talking about the marriage it has many meanings but it all dependent in the sentance that you put it in

      as i understood from EvilsEye
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      just keep looking at discovery channel you will get what i mean

      they dont say they have sex

      they say they marriage

      hope u got what i mean
      #j

    • I think what he ment was how would u live with out marriage as in sex (hope this word is no problem to explain it - Tenderness if it is then tell me to change it

      Go deeper, much deeper so we can think about it
      $$-e

      No dear, if we think of SEX in such mannar and discussion then we are talking with and in no SHAME
      لا حياء في الدين

      otherwise we will be still living in some dark ages as some horrible stories we read about that take place as a result of the lack of sex education

      Why I am tal;king about sex? oh well, I wonder if we all would have been here without it
      and
      like being said
      sex is very importan but never been everything
      It is very important, but look how ordinary man and or woman spend having sex out of the a 24 hours i.e. a day :P and to tell you the truth it is bad that when we say something we are used to think or others to think that we are meant with what one has to say, but NO
      Marriage is sex, only sex at one stage, and not at all later on

      What do you think


      :)

    • rikko كتب:

      what make you think in this filthy way????????????????????????
      its better for all of you to stop it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      if you imagin now then you will start thinking in it seriousely...............

      bone heads


      [B]
      Thank you dear rikko
      Yes, it was a strange question or thought but we cannot call it filthy as you suggested
      We asked our brother to explain why did he have this thought and he responded and we got all the story behind it

      Please read again dear and I am sure you will change your mind

      Regards dear and nice having you here with us
      :)