what do KHALJES do when they travel abroud?????

hello again,
i will not comment on any of the response from people about my point of view, but i do appreciete it much

As Whisper and the other fellows reminded us,
The main subject of the discussion is that the Omani students act "different" from what they do in thier homeland
Once they step foot on the foriegn country , they act in a total opposite way from what they did back home

they basically do all the things that they couldnt do at home

i absolutely dont think they are bad or corrupt, on the contrary, i feel sad for them, because no one taught them anything about living in alienation

I know that many of the Omani girls in Jordan who went on a scholarship have been returned to Oman because they got pregnant
most if not all of those girls are from the interior who havent even been to MUSCAT all thier lives
and i think you all know how the life in the interior of Oman is
imagine them suddenly going to a foriegn country with no supervision
they are too naive that one sweet word can fool them

The responsibility is on thier parents at the first place and on the ministry of higher education on the second place

The parents should talk openly to thier sons and daughters about how to deal with people, and how to protect oneself from the evilness of some people
they should talk openly to them about dangers of sexual promiscuity and drugs and that if a person is freindly does not mean that he is a freind

The ministry of higher education should give the students an orientation course about life abroad and about the positives and negative of living in alieanation
They should also provide social and psychological counseling for them at all times
(from the embassy or from the cultural division)
because feeling homesick and lonely can cause HORRIBLE consequenses such as deppresion which in turn leads to drug and alchohol abuse

Of course, if a person has strong faith and practices spiritual acts daily, then this will make them feel a little more secure and safe that god is with them and they are not alone
and they will feel strong and convinced that what is a sin is bad for them and so they will never do it no matter what the temptations are

but did anyone teach them that when they were growing up??
no,
all that they have been taught (or even maybe forced to do) is pray and fast and -for the girls- cover
no arguing and no discussion
they will do that on the outside but thier souls are deprived and confused
They pray because "my father will hit me if i dont" not because
this is the few minutes each day that i talk to god and thank him and cry for him and be closer to him each and everyday

the girls cover because "if i walked in the street uncovered my brother will scold me or guys of my neighborhood will think i am 9ay3a and they wont propose to me"
they do not cover because they truly belive that this protection for them from the evil devils out there
they do not cover because they truly belive that thier body too precious to be even looked at by shameless devils

they feel they are in a prison and they seek the first escape from home to be free from parents rules

this applies to both guys and girls, but of course it has more negative impact on a girl

Of course there are alot of Omani students who do sinfull things in Oman and outside Oman and everywhere
those will only learn the hard way, when a day will come and and the consequenses of thier bad behaivior will impact thier lives or thier families lives negatively
(i dont feel sorry for those because they are not naive at all)

i know i blab too much, but my point is that the Omani students that Tornedos Daughter refers to are victims of thier society that doesnt teach them anything and expect them to be perfect saints just like that




o salamatkom

Tenderness,
Yes my dear The Ministry is hopeless
as is everyday we wake up wishing for a damn brighter nation to live in

I dont know why i sensed a great deal of sarcasm in your last response, i really do hope i am mistaken

in anycase,
i am just a "hopeless" creature , how in the world will I keep a
???database of how many girls got pregnant


A relative of mine who studies in Jordan told me that more than ten girls
who got pregnant and they were all from the interior

these are the ones that i personally know about
and who knows, there could be others who were stupid enough to not even use birth control

I was just giving an EXAMPLE of a an unacceptable act


And , DUH, of course all these cases were not marriage relations
???why would they be wrong then

o salamtkom

Thanks Dear Unfaithful for your lovely reply which include mostly all the points that we really all of us need to know it in this topic. I really enjoyed reading your reply and you are absolutely right when you said that most of the students are naïve because they didn't see the true world for being away from it.
Besides that, parents' advices and recommendations are very important for their children when they go abroad. However, their advices shouldn't be hard as if they are forcing them to follow them and that may turn to the opposite side when it comes for their children. I study abroad for 2 years, both of my parents were trying to give me the full instructions, and one of the important one that me parents told me is not to be naïve. But my father gave me one advice that I really remember it clearly until now and I do follow it most of my time. It is a funny one and usually my friend laugh when I told them about it. I will write in Arabic " إن لم تكن ذئبا، أكلتك الذئاب", this piece of advice helped me so much and it includes everything my parents wanted to tell me that day. And I am still following it, but don't think that I am a real wolf .

It seems that we have a new idea in this topic, which I believe it is also important to be discussed here, which is about The Ministry of Education. I believe that the system of the education is worse than before. The new system of education that includes co- education in the new plan to improve the education in Oman, or shall I say the new plan that going to destroy the education in Oman. Even the new curriculum is not useful like before. Oman is trying now to follow the British system while the British themselves admit that their system of education is not working any more. They are trying now to apply the new rule which is stopping the co- education there because they find it, it has many disadvantages which impact on the students and in their teaching. Furthermore, my uncle told me once that while he was in London he and a British guy were trying to calculate something. My uncle started to calculate it by his mind while the British used his electronic calculate although it was an easy one. My uncle got the answer before him and the British said that since they were in school they didn't teach them to use their mind in calculating numbers. He said that your education system is better than us!!!
So you can see why the MINISTRY OF EDUCATION IS MORE THAN HOPELESS.

See you all

I wish if i could understand you Tenderness..It seems that none of the replies satisfies you and i believ most of the points that includes that main topic..As i believe also that the last reply of MRS. unfaithful covers the most points in this topic..And sorry if you think that i like to show off by my self as it seems you understand me..well, all what i did mention is one of my experinces in my life, or do u wanna me say" oh i also have the same problem that those students face when they study abroad"


And sorry again to disappoint you and to not reply as you want all of us


My regards to all
Whisper

Here's what I think about it...I agree with tornedos daughter in i that we do have some (omani or arabs) who act a bit strange after three weeks from moving to that country. Some might raise that period to 40 days..I think you guys have brought every thought about this topic. it's very complicated and have alot of branches....The issue of the background of that Girl or Boy is very essential. I know people who stayed as they are when they went to UK and managed to convert some Europeans to Islam even. On the other hand I know omani people who went so far to sleep with their teachers there....The background could be important....the other thing is friendship ..oh come on..take that mask out of your face lets GO OUT SIDE and have fun..that's normally what friends say right?? the freedom they get and the type of living sorounding them could be a reason too..everything they see, eat, watch have been made by westerners hand...what do you expect that poor Omani he or she to do?? stay at home and abandon every form of entertainment or life there..??.she /he will have to adapt to it and this movement could cost his/her whole soul, culture and religion..
tornedos daughter, you always bring up these tough topics...you will never stop..?? I guess there is nothing we can do to stop it..excpet that we should reinforce cuture and religion inside these people....

maybe, we should concentrate more on how do we solve it more that we raising more compliacted issues to the original ones..at the end we will find ourselves lost between all these thoughts and idea...

hi all
this whole issue has been discussed greatly and i can by no means cover all its aspects

I only have one small comment to add. I haven't the chance to travel to many countries and certainly not a chance to travel to countries where students are found. Therefore, i can't say anything in regards to what they do there. However, i study in such a country, and as a result i've seen all sorts of poeple and students from the Gulf! One thing, i got to learn, is that you can not judge a group of poeple or whole nation for how a small minority act or behave. I surely came across students who do unspeakable things, but i also, came across those who have great manners and set great example to others. The later group is by far much bigger

Where ever you go, you see poeple, greatly represent their countries (like stars in the sky) and others, well, ...let us just keep it at that