Does being responsible contradict with being religious??

    • Does being responsible contradict with being religious??

      For so many years, I met so many people who are so nice, religious, so good at this and that, but when it comes to responsibility, they totally forget that they have to do their own work and they go to continue their worship activities leaving loads of work to be done by others.

      Why people spend hours on worshipping when they know they have also other commitements, they have kids to look after, they have studies to do, they have to keep the house clean and not just sit 24/7, especially in Ramadan, and worship Allah. Doing our own activities also is part of worshipping him, so why they think that doing these normal stuff would contradict with their worship? They are not losing any rewards when they don't. First comes first, do what you are required to do for the benefit or your life and you will always find the time to worship Allah, but do not leave your mess for someone else to do it and that person gets all the blame if he/she couldn't do it correctly.

      What's the problems with those boys and girls being so irresponsible?? Is it because they are used to have people to do things for them? Are they so filthy-rich not to do anything? We all lived a beautiful life, we all had housemades to do our cleaning and had parents to do all our things we needed to do, but have some responsibility for your own things and do them yourself. Dont wait to find someone to do it for you and if there is someone today, you are going to be alone one day, so learn how to be responsible before it's too late!!!i

    • I am totally with you dear sister in your point..
      Unfortunately many people doesn't understand ISlam as it is and they try to exaggorate..

      The real Islam is to follow what Allah and prophet Mohammad PBUH order us to do..

      One of the eduqate exaples for this topic is the Hadith that 3 men were telling Prophet Mohammad the way they worship Allah..
      I don't remeber exactly the whole hadith
      but i am sure that u know it.. When the first man says that he is worshipping allah by Praying all the time, and the second said that he is praying Allah by fasting akk the days, and so on


      The most important point about this hadith that Prophet Mohammad said that we have to pray, work , and contact with people if we really wants to wroship Allah

      The least things these people who says that they are religious is to visit their relatives .. don't you think so..

      Thanks a lot Nwar for this Topic

    • Scream كتب:

      I am totally with you dear sister in your point..
      Unfortunately many people doesn't understand ISlam as it is and they try to exaggorate..

      The real Islam is to follow what Allah and prophet Mohammad PBUH order us to do..

      One of the eduqate exaples for this topic is the Hadith that 3 men were telling Prophet Mohammad the way they worship Allah..
      I don't remeber exactly the whole hadith
      but i am sure that u know it.. When the first man says that he is worshipping allah by Praying all the time, and the second said that he is praying Allah by fasting akk the days, and so on


      The most important point about this hadith that Prophet Mohammad said that we have to pray, work , and contact with people if we really wants to wroship Allah

      The least things these people who says that they are religious is to visit their relatives .. don't you think so..

      Thanks a lot Nwar for this Topic


      No worries Scream and thanks heaps for the reply. I reckon that it's not about ignoring the basics. Of course we all want to do thikr and all these sort of things but when it takes over something else's place that's when we are ignoring a side of our responsibilities.

      Yeah I do remember the story of the three men and that's the point, but from what I have seen it went too far to let someone do the most basic stuff of your own. I do understand that sometimes we need to help others when they are stuck, or we need someone to help us in something, but 3aib wallah we give all the responsibility of something to someone else!! Dont those people feel ashamed of that???i

      I dont mind them worshipping Allah, of course we get rewarded for that, but do it when you have free time, extra time to kill.. not when you know that you have a long list of things to do and worship Allah and then complain about not having time to rest or time to go out or time to visit relatives. And as you said, the simplest thing of worship is to visit relatives

    • those people have problems coordinating their lives.

      if it is anything to do with religion, then we all are ought to know that to succed in the after life we should approve that we are able to succeed in the current life.


      who knows well about religion, here i mean islam, will know pretty well that working has been strongly connected with woreshiping


      "inama al3amal 3ibada"


      nice to be with you guys

    • Honest كتب:

      Hi


      i agree


      i hope all poeple who read this Topic will get the benifit of it

      for sure first comes first


      we all have to learn to depend on ourself

      i think those poeple who travel alote and work or study abroad know very well how to depend on thier self

      :)


      Hi Honest, let me tell that you do find so careless and irresponsible people who travel, study or work abroad. Still if those know that they are going to face a hard time being away from family, why they left their home country from the first place anyway??i

      I know few students here who are studying abroad and still they are depending a lot of their parents or others to do things for them. If they can't do things themselves, why are they even abroad? why facing all the hard time? For nothing? They need to learn but they dont want to. At the end, they sit and get upset because things didnt go the way they wanted, well they didnt work for it at all, what do you expect?? There are two kind of people: those who experience and learn and those who experience and still drowned in the same s**t without learning anything at all, what do you recommend those?i

      thanks for your comments though
      Cheers

    • amalsami كتب:

      those people have problems coordinating their lives.

      if it is anything to do with religion, then we all are ought to know that to succed in the after life we should approve that we are able to succeed in the current life.


      who knows well about religion, here i mean islam, will know pretty well that working has been strongly connected with woreshiping


      "inama al3amal 3ibada"


      nice to be with you guys


      dear, maybe they still couldnt figure out a way to learn coordinating their lives? maybe their parents never gave them the opportunity to learn, and although they are place in a position where they have to learn that, they still dont get it.. or maybe they dont wanna get it

      As you said, we need to prove that we can succeed in the previous step before going and succeeding in the next one. But it's also about determination and strong will of learning what you havent learned before from your parents, community or anyone else...

      Yeah they dont understand that everything we do is connected to worship, but people have different perspectives of worship itself, and they may not come across anybody who explained all this to them, so I would still keep those sort of possibilities for them...

      thanks and take it easy

    • Thank you dear NaWar, interesting topic
      I guess, and to start with, that so many out there have no clear meaning of worship, and only think it is limited and confined to Salat, Sawm….etc, the five basics if I ay call them so

      To tell you the truth I got mixed up a little bit to know whether we are talking about responsibility and self confidence in general or them two factors in religious people or with so called religious
      No doubt we all know that the Islam basics were imposed at a later stage of Islam, and I am talking about Islam basics and not Belief basics. I guess it must be understood that Islam started by building the character, responsibility and confidence of the individual believing there won't be a good Moslem without such principles.
      And like you said NaWaR, Almighty Allah never asked to fast 24 hours, or pray 500 times or Haj every year simply because Allah knows us better and knows that we have a society to build and keep

      And just like Scream said, exaggerating in worship is totally refused and rejected, and this reminds me with story when khalifa Omar was not happy with that man who spent most if not all his time at the mosque.

      I totally agree with Honest and amalsami. But let us be fair, well sort off, and say Ramadan is a month of forgiveness and the majority tend to take advantage to be closer to Allah as much as they can, but and once again we should not forget other things, work, family, society in all

      I know I missed lots of points, but I guess we all together would eventually cover the topic and give it all it deserves

      Thank you Nawar, Scream, Honest and amalsami and I am sure we are going to meet again and again

      Kind Regards
      10derness


    • Thanks Tenderness, I reckon what is happening now is, people forgot about the responsibility and just concentrated literally on the five pillars of Islam. It only started with building the character, but all it needed is people who can better their character and who are able then with this character to carry on the basics and the belives later on

      Well talking about Ramadan, yes it is the month of forgiveness but we should give everything its time. Time to relax, time to study and time to worship and do the extra thikr that we are supposed to do for this month. But imagine when someone does that and tell someone else to cook for them for example, or wash for them, or do their assignments for them because you know they are busy worshiping in this month.. OooH, being a student has its rewards, hello people!!!i

      Tenderness, the problem is I dont know if those people are really aware of what they are doing, Im not sure if they are doing it to be more rewareded or just a cover up to be seen as a RELIGIOUS person.. So what if Im not that religious as long as I dont do any major sin!??i

      Who are the religious people? Those who are practicing Islam strictly without being slack in doing any good behavior or is it just doing the least things that we are asked to do??i

    • Well, I believe being a religious is to practice Islam in every aspect and respect with total belief and determination without expecting any rewards from any body but Almighty Allah

      All this starts by self control and self conservation from falling in mistakes and sins. Religious people should know all I expect from them is how they treat me, how they behave in their society. They should know they pray for themselves, carry out pilgrimage to themselves but fast for Allah.
      After all I do not bother if they pray, fast .....etc, they should know this and make sure to reflect their relation with Allah on theirs with people and society

      Going back to ramadan, we all should know that muslims did all the Jihad for Islam and Allah in Ramadan, while fasting

      I know many of them out there try to make the others feel how religious they are are by growing a beard and wear distinctive dress and carry few things in their hands and blabbing things and so on, but No, we believe no such things anymore
      Our standards for accepting and recognizing religious people have changed and only true religious people are welcome

      10derness

    • Islamic bases should be known deeply by all Muslims especially for those who live abroad. Islamic laws ask all Muslims to do all Islamic duties as much as they can without any exaggeration. I heard a story that talks about this article.
      One day when our prophet Mohammad was sitting with his companions he said “ a man will inter now who will be in the paradise”. a poor man interred holding his sandals between his armpits. The second and the third day the same events happened again. One of the companion insisted to know why this man is different which made him be one of those who would be in the paradise. so he decided to know the secret . he went to the poor man I asked him to stay with him for three days. During these three days he watched the poor man to reach to the secret. He saw nothing abnormal. He asked the poor what our prophet said about him and asked him of the secret. He said “ I pray five times as everybody does”, “ but the most important thing that I sleep without carrying any hatred or envy towards anybody”


      Do u see no need to exaggerate things. But this doesn’t mean to ignore the duties as most people do. I went to Maka one day . I was surprised when I saw everybody closing his shop and running to pray after the end of praying call. But some people in some Arabian countries do not care about the praying call coz they are busy in doing shopping or working ..etc.
      I think media plays big role in making people far from their religion. Some channel like AL SHARQA works hard to make Muslim and Non Muslim know about Islamic principle. At the same time other channel plays music and aimless films that have no lessons relate to their society or religion .

      Alah will not change people unless they try to change what inside their hearts

    • Alah will not change people unless they try to change what inside their hearts

      إن الله لا يغير ما بقوم حتى يغيروا ما بانفسهم...صدق الله العظيم


      Thank you البارون
      I guess we here agreed that Salat is not the only factor deciding to be a good moslem or not. We all need to pray to start with and start from there in living our safe religious life

      I am afraid that Salat and Sawm began to be as habits and not a worship, peole and sorry to say it are praying and do sins, they pray because they are used to it. They fast and look what they do, waiting for the prayer to start eating and forget why they fasted in the first place
      إن الصلاة تنهى عن الفحشاء المنكر، نعم انها تنهى ولكنها لا تمنع


      But we ought to make ur a prayer a method of self and society protection from falling into what Allah forbids, and it, the prayer does not make us religiuos if not accompanied with work, hard work for the sake of ourselves and others

      Yes, Media is playing a critical role, but we have brains, to choose and pick. I know temptations are there, every where but again we have to see what is good for us. Isalm is easy and tolerent, we should be tolerent. Islam has never been against human desires, but rather limited it and showed us the right way to do it. Marriage was put to fullfill our sexual needs, but in a great and respectful way
      See ow much is safe and relaxing to have sex with the blessing of Allah

      Sorry, I do not want go any further and would wait for our dear brothers and siters to tackle the topic from differne angles and do not just watch from a disttance and I believe it is their duty to do so

      Hoping to see more of them around

      Regards
      10derness


    • yeah unfortunately Tenderness our standards to recognize religious people have changed. But trust me that those who have good relation with God, they will eventually have good relations with others and vice versa.

      One thing I didnt agree with you when you said: the prayer does not make us religiuos if not accompanied with work, hard work for the sake of ourselves and others

      What I dont agree wit you here is working hard for the sake of ourselves and others. No, it's not for others, never meant to be for others. Everything we do in this life is for the sake of God, and we have to make sure that we are not doing what we are doing to expect something from people, like a nice compliment or a sweet word. All the reward will fly in the sky for nothing...

      I still understand that others are really trying to get as many rewards as they can because they know they have done many mistakes, but we'll go back to not doing something while forgeting about the other commitments

      It's not only the media that is controlling our mind, but also the governmental rules. Media is the easiest way to get to people, but if the government doesnt do anything about it, then people wont follow. A simple example is the rules being conducted in Sharjah


    • ALBARON, if we know how to behave and we educate our children, relatives and neighbours about these things, then as a group will be doing the same thing. Again, I think the government plays a crucial role to adjust the society

      You mentioned a very nice example and that also means that we can still have good deeds by heart only. We do not need to do things physicall although it's recommended in terms of the huge rewards we get but the point is, there are many others way to get rewards from, the simplest things can be very valuable. Yeah in Mecca they run to pray and close all their shop, because the government won't allow them to stay in the shop during the prayer. A society that is not being firm with the least things like (prayers) will have a short time life. True it does not stop us from doing mistakes but it helps to prevent us from doing so. It's the will and desire within that manage our behaviors

      Ta

    • Thank you dear NaWaR
      I agree with you based on the principle we are all here to meet though we differ. A topic without so many ideas and opinions is a dead one

      I hope the more faith we have the more it serves us and the people around us and this is what I meant saying for the sake of others. The community we are living in is those others, and we all doing it for Almighty Allah, hoping we are rewarded by Allah when it is time to judge our short lives we have been through

      Thank you dear

      :)
      10derness



    • very true, NaWar
      And i agree with what you said .. and i am glad u are such a bright person to open this topic

      I would like to add that being irresponsible would make a person throw all thier duties on others or simply find a way to get away without doing nothing and yet being respected and admired
      now what way would that be???s
      by pretedning to be religious and pray 24/7 and fast all week, etc
      (I am talking from my experience in my work place, by the way)i
      Those irresponsible people are simple lazy, and they know that no one will dare prevent them from going to the prayer room and sitting there for hours "reading" the Quran
      but if they left work for 30 minutes to go for a walk at the beach, well thats a disaster and i they will be warned not to do it again

      Unfortunatley, these days, you can basically do (or not do!!) anything and get away with it if you labeled it with "being religous" or being a "true muslim"... even if it meant killing inoccent people

      I rarely met with anyone who convinced me that they are following true Islam, because -as one of the examples of contradiction- being irresponsible, lazy, and inconsiderate for others is definately not Islam

    • I have totally agreed with all of you and most Muslims know that Islam is a universal religion, meant for all mankind. Allah (swt) is the Lord of the entire Universe, and Muslims have been entrusted with the duty of conveying His message to all mankind. Alas, most Muslims today have become callous towards this duty! While accepting Islam as the best way of life for ourselves, most of us are unwilling to share this knowledge with those to whom the message has not yet been conveyed. The Arabic word Da’wah means a call or an invitation. In Islamic context, it means to strive for the propagation of Islam.
      The Glorious Qur’an says:
      “Ah! Who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!”
      In order to convey the message of Islam, dialogue and debate become inevitable. The Glorious Qur’an says:
      “Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord, with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious!”
      May Allah have mercy upon you. Know that the religion is what came from Allah, the blessed and the most high. It is not something left to the intellect and opinions of men. Knowledge of it is what comes from Allah and his messenger, so do not follow anything based upon your desires and so deviated away from religion and leave Islam. I am asking all people to understand Islam deeply rather than shallow. Why we have to complicate the Islam since it has been explain & simplified well by our messenger? Let’s teach our chilled about the real Islam and not just let them be abused by the other people who think they know every thing about Islam since the now shallow knowledge about it. Thanks God for your mercy & benevolence
      eL3aJoOoZ_NaWaR thanks for the exceptional & extraordinary subject ..keep it up

    • Tenderness كتب:

      Thank you dear NaWaR
      I agree with you based on the principle we are all here to meet though we differ. A topic without so many ideas and opinions is a dead one

      I hope the more faith we have the more it serves us and the people around us and this is what I meant saying for the sake of others. The community we are living in is those others, and we all doing it for Almighty Allah, hoping we are rewarded by Allah when it is time to judge our short lives we have been through

      Thank you dear

      :)
      10derness


      No worries Tenderness, and we will all be judged fairly one day..

      Few days ago I was thinking of another way to take this attitude, or let's say from those people's perspective. Some people really say that they prefer to do these religious activities and not care a lot about the other stuff that are important for life, because after all they are important for us in LIFE, not after life. They say we are doing this because we care more about the life after we are judged. They say: isn't true that الحياة مزرعة الآخرة??? well yeah that's true also, but excluding other general deeds is as important as the other religious activities that we are doing.


    • thanks Mrs unfaithful and my apologies to be so late..

      Yeah it's funny how those people get away with it just because you are performing a faith-related activity. But to be honest with you, if I was the boss or manager, I would not bend the rules for such excuses. We can't do anything, simply because we cant stop anyone from worshiping. However, we can limit their break time and warn them not to exceed that time frame. At the end, work is work, and first comes first. No one said when it's time to work you leave everything behind you just to do your 1 hour prayer.

      Perhaps it's a way to avoid doing any work, but it's also the other person's mistake if he/she accepted to do other's work. I wouldn't take someone else's work just because they had to pray for so long. Sorry, I also prayed but my work is my mess and Im not going to mess with someone else's work.

      Certainly that's not Islam, but perhaps that's not laziness either. Sometimes people are used to certain things at home and they think that they can be the same way at work. Some people cant grasp the idea that work is NOT home. As you have duties at home you also do have other duties at work they need even more concentration and effort because you have to be honest in the way you do your work

      اذا عمل احدكم عملا فليتقنه

    • YSK_lol كتب:

      I have totally agreed with all of you and most Muslims know that Islam is a universal religion, meant for all mankind. Allah (swt) is the Lord of the entire Universe, and Muslims have been entrusted with the duty of conveying His message to all mankind. Alas, most Muslims today have become callous towards this duty! While accepting Islam as the best way of life for ourselves, most of us are unwilling to share this knowledge with those to whom the message has not yet been conveyed. The Arabic word Da’wah means a call or an invitation. In Islamic context, it means to strive for the propagation of Islam.
      The Glorious Qur’an says:
      “Ah! Who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!”
      In order to convey the message of Islam, dialogue and debate become inevitable. The Glorious Qur’an says:
      “Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord, with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious!”
      May Allah have mercy upon you. Know that the religion is what came from Allah, the blessed and the most high. It is not something left to the intellect and opinions of men. Knowledge of it is what comes from Allah and his messenger, so do not follow anything based upon your desires and so deviated away from religion and leave Islam. I am asking all people to understand Islam deeply rather than shallow. Why we have to complicate the Islam since it has been explain & simplified well by our messenger? Let’s teach our chilled about the real Islam and not just let them be abused by the other people who think they know every thing about Islam since the now shallow knowledge about it. Thanks God for your mercy & benevolence
      eL3aJoOoZ_NaWaR thanks for the exceptional & extraordinary subject ..keep it up


      thanks to you YSK_lol for your participation and I got your point. True people have to understand Islam deeply and not just do whatever they think is right and leave the rest that they think it's not necessary. Whatever we were given, we should take it as it is, not choosing what best suites us out of what were given.

      I guess we hold some sort of responsibility towards those people by telling them. We should go and talk to them about it. Let them understand the real meaning of what we are going, and why do we have to give each activity the fair amount of time and effort. Whether the activity is a life and work related one or a religious one. I dont want to give names though because we all believe that what we are going is religious, entertaining ourselves is religious because we were asked to relax and give ourselves a break.

      I wish that someone gives another opinion, a disagreeing one and not just follow what we've said. Im sure there are many that we still cant reach.

      Thanks everyone and still the boat of life is going on. I think I'll start talking to people whom I think they dont really understand the meaning of TAKING RESPONSIBILITY of their own work and duties

      Guys you were great!!1

    • Generalizing is no more acceptable, this type of problem is not because of worship even some who seems religious being in such cases, the source of the problem is our upbringing environment in the middle east countries.

      Apparently, it can be in various shapes for example some takes from his work time for his own business, football player follows up the match or a lady inside the bathroom for hours looking after her make up.

      Worship is positive view to the life, so if any religious fellow has this sort of sickness, it’s from his earliest upbringing period and he has to get red of it.


    • Dear student,

      I agree with you the surrounding environment does have an impact of the person's personality, but why did God give us a brain?? To think, I will not agree with you to some extent that at the day of judgement Allah will see our own deeds, how we used our time and in what. At that day no one has an excuse of saying, oh I didn't know so and so, or I didnt think of it that way. No we all do have brains to use and think, to differentiat between what is right and wrong. The parents can bring up a kid that's true, but as we grow we can't totally depend on them any more, it become our responsibility to educate ourselves, to search for the real meanings of what we do.

      Yet, it could depend on the way a person was brought up but I can give you an example of myself, that I didn't know any real meanings for what I used to do, why did I worship and why did I have to performe such tasks, or why this particular activity is better than another one and why people get rewarded so much for it?? These were questions that I had to look for answers for them outside my home. As my parents grew up with us, they became more religious, I dont think they were that religious although they were not bad. I can say that they were more traditional that religious, they couldnt differentiate between a tradition and a religious activity. Whatever we learned from outside, we would pass it to my parents as well. Even if they are older than us, doesn't mean they know everything, we can remind them and we can let them know what they didn't know.

      Sickness is a very strong description to call it with. It's a matter of the way we take things and understand them. We need to be fully convinced about what we are doing and WHY we are doing it. Some want to show off, that's sickness but I don't want to be unfair with those who want to look good in front of people, maybe they want attention and I personally see no problem with that, we all need more attentio, and we always seek it

      Thanks student, you really did add something to this old topic. Wish you all the best

      Cheers


    • Very true Nawar, People do mix up tradition with religion, thats why most children growing up, like you described yourself, dont really know the difference, and unfortunately dont even get the right answers when they ask.

      But in the topic brought up, its adults who mix up not only traditions, but self-defined acts and label them as religious. A person can do that, its his/her business, between them and God, AS LONG as it doesnt effect or interfere with the people around them.
      Therefore, Most religious acts that those so-called religiuos people do, are very unacceptable, because it is irresponsible... and interferes with peoples' lives.

      If you see, people now do not think for themselves. They just follow, Who ever walks around with a beard, short dishdasha and a grumpy face... is like a holy creature,,, and they follow what he says,.. and (SICKINGLY) they ask him for advice and follow blindly whatever he says...
      No , who would dare tell a person like this beardy guy that working hours are actually for working not for reading quran?? NO ONE would dare
      Not only do people follow men like this, but they believe whatever thing done FALSELY in the name of Islam. Maybe they believe they will be cursed and damned if for once they thought for themselves, and actually spoke-up and disagreed


      I didnt get what you meant that people want to get the attention,,, and why do you think its ok!!!!??? You mean performing religous acts publically to get the attention of people??? i hope not

    • Absolutely, Anoar u are right when u said that the responsibility is based on the individual. I’m fully agree with u while the idea I was attempting to express is there are several circumstances intervening in to create this kind of cases, one of them is social environment. What makes us different from Japanese, why do they like their jobs as much as we like our holidays? It’s upbringing , social environment and what ever comes under them education, media ect.

      Yes, on the day of judgement there is no chance for excuses but we r still in the present life where we can correct our self, and to get them corrected we should analyse the case accurately. Therefore, analysing and not accusing or blaming is the right method to solve the problem. In my opinion, keep asking why is the right way to determine the problem. Why r they careless ?
      Is it because of worship? No, of course coz its consensus that the worship is positive view to the life. Is it because they r lazy? Is it coz of the job?..then, if it is the laziness, why is he lazy? Tel we reach to the source of the problem.

      I’ve got some other points I wish I’ll be able to add as soon as I can.


    • Exactly, Mrs Unfaithful.. you are right again.. adults mix up the self-defined acts and say that they are from the religion.. I wouldn't also say anything bad about religious people because honestly with whats happening to the world and all the bad things happening for the muslim world countries, it's so sad to see ourselves been slacks in doing the least things in islam.. perhaps thats why everything they do would be labeled as religious..

      Even with following someone, it's alright but we need to know who are we following, and we have to be very careful that we get to the level that we admire the person so much and then start worshiping him inderectly.. It's commonly known that religious people have those looks with the beard and short dishdasha and people would eventually go to them thinking that they are the people who can give the right advice, but not all options reccommended by the imam or the religious person would be correct or applies on them..

      Exactly, maybe they think they are going to be damned if they disagreed but this is totally negative thinking. Thank God I don't think that way, I cant imagine what you just said and that they may think that way.. I reallt started feeling so sick wallah.. I need chocolates.. lol

      What I meant by saying the part you didnt get is, many people would want to have a good image in front of people just to get their attention as a start and then start from there. Of course they would still do it for the sake of Allah but they want people to know that they are good. I think it is OK in this manner only because we all feel good when others think good about us and dont have to bad mouth the person. But I dont like it when people try to impress others and do whatever they do just to show off forgetting that they are doing it as a part of worshipping, this is called shirk in this case

      Let me know if you are still confused :)

    • student كتب:

      Absolutely, Anoar u are right when u said that the responsibility is based on the individual. I’m fully agree with u while the idea I was attempting to express is there are several circumstances intervening in to create this kind of cases, one of them is social environment. What makes us different from Japanese, why do they like their jobs as much as we like our holidays? It’s upbringing , social environment and what ever comes under them education, media ect.

      Yes, on the day of judgement there is no chance for excuses but we r still in the present life where we can correct our self, and to get them corrected we should analyse the case accurately. Therefore, analysing and not accusing or blaming is the right method to solve the problem. In my opinion, keep asking why is the right way to determine the problem. Why r they careless ?
      Is it because of worship? No, of course coz its consensus that the worship is positive view to the life. Is it because they r lazy? Is it coz of the job?..then, if it is the laziness, why is he lazy? Tel we reach to the source of the problem.

      I’ve got some other points I wish I’ll be able to add as soon as I can.


      yes student I agree with you in that sense about the impact of the surrounding environment.. although you can have very traditional people but you love latin culture or being obssessed with the japanese culture.. I was brought up with totally different culture and love the latin, japanese and chinese culture from nowhere.. still cant explain that..

      you are right again, we do need to keep on asking so that we know what we are doing, but we cant correct everything, sometimes we need more time for a particular thing and sometimes we need few seconds to correct something.. I believe that it's never too late to better ourselves, doenst matter how old we are, how wealthy we are or how good we already are..

      We'll be waiting to see your other points.. thanks student